Curse

whufc89 · Jan 15, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Im not 100% sure as which elite to run with Koss i was thinking my 2 best choices would be....

[skill]dragon slash[/skill]

or

[skill]hundred blades[/skill]

I have used axes my whole time on GW and just don't know where to begin as for a good sword build for him.

Any Suggestions?

Thanks.

Harrier's haste · Jan 15, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Depend on the situation, if there are alot of melee enemies, I would use Hundred Blades, as it can do mass aoe damage against them.(Or any place where the enemy tend to group up) D. Slash is mainly used for adrenaline heavy builds, and is more single foe-vised.

Age · Jan 15, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Good place to look

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...play.php?f=243

Coloneh · Jan 15, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

dont use hundred blades, its terrible. out of those two, use dragon slash, but heroes are to stupid to use it right, i would give them quivering blade + plauge touch.

Harrier's haste · Jan 15, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

dont use hundred blades, its terrible. out of those two, use dragon slash, but heroes are to stupid to use it right, i would give them quivering blade + plauge touch.

Why not a Flame ATT. sword + conjure flame and use Crippling Slash as an elite? It work wonder in both pvp and pve.(that's the build i use for my heros)

pakhavit · Jan 15, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

I give my hero quivering blade too

10ad for dragon slash take forver -__-a

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 15, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Take DSlash. It does insane damage, even though heroes don't spam it as much as I'd like. The adren cost isn't a big deal, you are using FGJ, right?

Hundred Blades is a /fail elite, it wasn't supposed to be elite, then it was made elite so it can't be used with Illusionary Weaponary, but didn't get any buffs.

Cripslash is meh, do you think the addition of cripple (when compared to Sever Artery) is worth the elite slot in PvE? That is, of course, if you were going to use it at all.

Quivering is a good choice, it doesn't take brains to know how to use it, which means the AI should do fine.

Harrier's haste · Jan 15, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Take DSlash. It does insane damage, even though heroes don't spam it as much as I'd like. The adren cost isn't a big deal, you are using FGJ, right?

Hundred Blades is a /fail elite, it wasn't supposed to be elite, then it was made elite so it can't be used with Illusionary Weaponary, but didn't get any buffs.

Cripslash is meh, do you think the addition of cripple (when compared to Sever Artery) is worth the elite slot in PvE? That is, of course, if you were going to use it at all.

Quivering is a good choice, it doesn't take brains to know how to use it, which means the AI should do fine.

Crippling Slash is good, for pvp use anyways(=p) I won't argue with you here and i do see your point(pve = all about dishing as much damage as possible for a warrior). But dunno, I prefer Crip Slash even in PvE and it doesn't seem as bad as you seems to suggest.

But between Dslash or Thousand blades, use thousand blades, as it allows you to build up Adr. fast and then just spam you other attacks. While Dslash takes a while to build even with frenzy.

Coloneh · Jan 15, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

Why not a Flame ATT. sword + conjure flame and use Crippling Slash as an elite? It work wonder in both pvp and pve.(that's the build i use for my heros)

I was thinking this before, but its kinda a waste of an elite. crippled isnt that useful in PvE.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 15, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

But between Dslash or Thousand blades, use thousand blades, as it allows you to build up Adr. fast and then just spam you other attacks. While Dslash takes a while to build even with frenzy.

Uh, DSlash wins easy in PvE. FGJ + Enraging Charge (should be in a PvE bar), should give you the 10 adr for DSlash in 3 hits, thats ~3 seconds. Then you can spam DSlash for ~80 damage per hit, which Hundred Blades does no +damage and needs to have other attack skills on your bar, instead of the utility allowed by the DSlash (Brawling Headbutt/Steelfang Slash, SY).

legacyofkain85 · Jan 15, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by whufc89

Im not 100% sure as which elite to run with Koss i was thinking my 2 best choices would be....

[skill]dragon slash[/skill]

or

[skill]hundred blades[/skill]

I have used axes my whole time on GW and just don't know where to begin as for a good sword build for him.

Any Suggestions?

Thanks.

i would go with hundred blades ,heroes do not use dragon slash so good(mindless spaming under for great justice) i also tested them both on a warrior hero with the same stats ,weapon and the same build and hundred blades did a bit more dps,after 180 seconds on the master of dmg

Nyktos · Jan 15, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Tbh heroes tend to be much better as Tchoppers than any sword build. But if you're set on using a sword, Dslash or Quivering Blade are good.

Harrier's haste · Jan 16, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Uh, DSlash wins easy in PvE. FGJ + Enraging Charge (should be in a PvE bar), should give you the 10 adr for DSlash in 3 hits, thats ~3 seconds. Then you can spam DSlash for ~80 damage per hit, which Hundred Blades does no +damage and needs to have other attack skills on your bar, instead of the utility allowed by the DSlash (Brawling Headbutt/Steelfang Slash, SY).

why would you use steelfang if the whole point is to spam Dslash? the rest imo are simply supports, providing conditions to ~80(if it really is ~80) damage that Dslash deals. But for enraged, in PvE you have to move constantly, and if you use enraged purely for adr. sooner or later you're gonna run outa energy and FGJ takes forever to recharge, not really worth for a skill slot. Cripl Slash-Sever artery-bull's charge-conjure flame/lighting/frost/-frenzy-rush-healing sig-sun and moon slash are the combination i usually use.(Both for me and my hero) It doesn't deliver 100+ damage in 5 seconds but it isn't as bad as people are seemly to imply here.

Stormlord Alex · Jan 16, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

why would you use steelfang if the whole point is to spam Dslash?

While FGJ! is up, you can happily go DS - DS - DS - DS - DS, throwing in Headbutt and "SY!" when needed.

However, when FGJ ends,you can keep the full-adrenaline chain going with DS - Headbutt - Steelfang - DS, still being able to spam "SY!" at will.
Indeed, with Steelfang, you can happily eschew FGJ/EH entirely for something fun.

Draginvry · Jan 16, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

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Originally Posted by Nyktos

Tbh heroes tend to be much better as Tchoppers than any sword build.

I use Tchop on all my warrior heros.

Harrier's haste · Jan 17, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Draginvry

I use Tchop on all my warrior heros.

Ever seen a Tchop 3 war gank....????it was....horrible...for the mesmer who got ganked......

blue.rellik · Jan 17, 2008, 11:11 AM // 11:11

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

Ever seen a Tchop 3 war gank....????it was....horrible...for the mesmer who got ganked......

A Triple Chop warrior 'ganked' a single target?

Was the mesmer wearing naked?

Crom The Pale · Jan 17, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

One thing to keep in mind with heros is they are not the brightest pixels on screen.

A simple bar is often the best for them.

[skill]Triple chop[/skill][skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill][skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Protector's Defense[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Anything more complicated than that and its just wasted skills slots.

eximiis · Jan 17, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Ever tryed a hammer koss ?? try it !!!

Earth Shaker with "for great justice" and you'll see plenty of KD. then put yeti smash.

Orange Milk · Jan 17, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Protectors Defense is Fail on a Hero. He will cast it and move the next second. Infact any "ends if you..." skills fail on Heros.

I tried [skill]Berserker Stance[/skill] on Koss once and watched him "Beserker's" then "attack skill" the very next second over and over.

I took him to the isle and test other "ends if you..." skills on him and witnessed pure mass fail on his part.

Enraging Charge is great for a warrior Hero.